Interview with Gerry Power from the Joint Improvement Team that is co-sponsored by the Scottish Government and COSLA. Gerry has contributed a chapter on the impact co-production is having on health and social care planning and provision in Scotland in 'Making Health and Social Care Personal and Local: Moving from Mass Production to Co-Production' a new book by Governance International and the Local Government Information Unit. The book can be downloaded from http://www.govint.org/